Issue 84818 - [VI] [2.4] GUI and Help translation
Summary: [VI] [2.4] GUI and Help translation
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: Internationalization
Classification: Code
Component: code (show other issues)
Version: current
Hardware: All All
: P3 Trivial (vote)
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: vg
QA Contact: issues@l10n
URL: http://www.riverland.net.au/~clytie/O...
Keywords:
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
Reported: 2007-12-21 06:54 UTC by clytie
Modified: 2013-08-07 15:01 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

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Issue Type: ENHANCEMENT
Latest Confirmation in: ---
Developer Difficulty: ---


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gsicheck errors (5.60 KB, text/plain)
2007-12-21 10:19 UTC, vg
no flags Details
gsicheck errors - please get gsicheck to run, otherwize you'll always get errors (713 bytes, text/plain)
2007-12-21 14:05 UTC, vg
no flags Details

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Description clytie 2007-12-21 06:54:39 UTC
Sorry I couldn't get this in sooner. Please identify this file as the official Vietnamese submission for 
OpenOffice.org 2.4, and please download it again before integrating the last fixes in the CWS.

Hopefully, we will be able to update it again before that date, but meanwhile, this is our current 
translation.

(Note: we always use the same URL, so you can grab our current translation from here anyway. If we 
change this URL, we will notify you.)

Clytie Siddall
Vietnamese Free-Software Translation Team
Comment 1 clytie 2007-12-21 07:19:30 UTC
Sorry, I originally assigned this to ihi, because that was what we have done before. I can't change the 
assignee, it seems, so I have CC'd this issue to you. Please tell me if there is anything else I need to do.

Clytie
Comment 2 rafaella.braconi 2007-12-21 09:46:21 UTC
reassigning to vg and setting target. Vladimir, please import. Thx
Comment 3 vg 2007-12-21 10:19:49 UTC
Created attachment 50527 [details]
gsicheck errors
Comment 4 vg 2007-12-21 10:20:55 UTC
fixed in the CWS localisation27
Comment 5 clytie 2007-12-21 11:11:49 UTC
AFAIK, I can't run gsicheck on Mac OSX, but I do run the PO checks from the Translate Toolkit. Thankyou 
for running gsicheck for me. How do I interpret the results? I can't see any statements about what kind 
of error is detected.

Not that the GSI format makes much sense at the best of times, but I'd like to know what needs fixing. ;)
Comment 6 avagula 2007-12-21 11:31:29 UTC
In first two strings opening 'variable' tag is missing.
third - in cling ahelp tag \> is missing.
fourth - cannot see closing ahelp-tag
next 6 strings - you use unkown <meta> tag
11th - 2 closing ahelp-tags
12th - closing ahelp-tag is missing
13th - opening variable-tag is missing
14th - closing ahelp-tag is missing
last - you added link that doesn't exist in original, please format link another
way (use e.g. only quotes)

And please compare source strings too, although all these errors were obvious
there can be something more, eg. bogus hid or visibility option, at least last
one often changes.
Comment 7 avagula 2007-12-21 11:37:39 UTC
I dont know what I was going to write before phone rang, but please read:
... third - after ahelp tag \> is missing...
:)
Comment 8 clytie 2007-12-21 13:33:56 UTC
Thanks for the details.

In first two strings opening 'variable' tag is missing.
I don't know why the closing tag is there: there is no <variable> tag in the source text. :S

third - in cling ahelp tag \> is missing.
Fixed.

fourth - cannot see closing ahelp-tag
Fixed.

next 6 strings - you use unkown <meta> tag

I was translating "meta" but wanted to quote it as well. I tried escaping the angle brackets, but perhaps 
it's better not to use them at all. I've replaced them with guillemets.

11th - 2 closing ahelp-tags
Fixed.

12th - closing ahelp-tag is missing
Fixed.

13th - opening variable-tag is missing
The final variable tag is spurious, probably copied from a similar string. (removed)

14th - closing ahelp-tag is missing
Fixed.

last - you added link that doesn't exist in original, please format link another
way (use e.g. only quotes)
I tried to copy the style for links in the Help, but evidently I got it wrong. I've just quoted it instead, 
then.

And please compare source strings too, although all these errors were obvious
there can be something more, eg. bogus hid or visibility option, at least last
one often changes.
I do check them: I'm surprised these occurred. Thanks for the information.

I'll have just uploaded the fixed file. Please integrate it if there is still time.
Comment 9 vg 2007-12-21 14:05:15 UTC
Created attachment 50535 [details]
gsicheck errors - please get gsicheck to run, otherwize you'll always get errors
Comment 10 avagula 2007-12-21 17:05:28 UTC
Clytie: please remove item-tags around Shift, these dont exist any more in original.
Comment 11 clytie 2007-12-22 03:20:45 UTC
I've been searching through the GSI file (which will take a while, item by item), and the first string I 
found where I'd applied formatting to Shift which didn't exist in the original string was:

67			0	en-US	\<ahelp hid=\".uno:Pie\"\>.... To draw a circle pie, hold down Shift 
while you drag.\</ahelp\>				2002-02-02 02:02:02
helpcontent2	source\text\shared\02\01140000.xhp	0	help	par_id3156383	67			0	
vi	\<ahelp hid=\".uno:Pie\"\>V...  Để vẽ bánh tròn, ấn giữ phím \<item 
type=\"keycode\"\>Shift\</item\> trong khi kéo.\</ahelp\>				2002-02-02 02:02:02

The Help strings have very inconsistent formatting, so I have tried, for example, to put <emph> tags 
around menu commands which are still unformatted in the original string, and <keycode> tags around 
keyboard key names. I've done this so the formatting will appear consistent in the translation, even if 
it doesn't in the Englis text.

Should I not do that?
Comment 12 avagula 2007-12-22 07:13:31 UTC
Clytie, gsicheck checks that the count of similar tags were equal in both lines.
So when you add tags, it results an error. 
Comment 13 avagula 2007-12-22 07:15:34 UTC
An by the way: looks like Pavel and Shaun explained you about using gsicheck in
Mac environment?
http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.openoffice.devel.porting.mac/3603
Comment 14 clytie 2007-12-23 13:33:01 UTC
Did we solve that one? That's good news. I didn't remember, sorry. I have a disease that is eating my 
mind as well as my body, so until my team can find someone with enough time to donate, I'm it. (I hate 
admitting to being this ill, but it's not fair on people for me to pretend I can do things, when I can't 
anymore. I can't even add up single-digit numbers anymore, and I lecture in mathematics, or I would, 
if I were not ill.)

I can translate strings, one at a time, and try to follow up bugs and mailing list messages, but 
anything more than that is very difficult or impossible for me. A gsicheck I can't just download and run 
isn't viable, which is probably why I didn;t get any further with that. Bummer.

If they have got it into the build now, it might be possible for me. I'll try to work it out.

Do I need to do any more to the file I submitted, or are we OK for now? I'm getting muddled, sorry.

Clytie
Comment 15 vg 2007-12-27 11:37:39 UTC
@clytie: please do not revive this issue, fix erroneous strings in next update...
Comment 16 gregor.hartmann 2007-12-27 12:37:17 UTC
gsicheck is now available as download for MAC intel on
http://ooo.services.openoffice.org/gsicheck/
Comment 17 clytie 2007-12-29 08:09:03 UTC
Yay! I saw the announcement on dev@l10n and downloaded it. Now I have gsicheck! :)

I went through our GSI file very carefully and fixed every error it picked. I have now uploaded our fully-
checked and (according to gsicheck) perfect file. ;)

It's a great relief to have that working. pofilter is good, but I think it does miss a few things specific to 
the GSI file.