Issue 6681 - "An Unrecoverable Error has occurred" is *not* enough error message.
Summary: "An Unrecoverable Error has occurred" is *not* enough error message.
Status: CLOSED WONT_FIX
Alias: None
Product: General
Classification: Code
Component: ui (show other issues)
Version: OOo 1.0.1
Hardware: All All
: P3 Trivial (vote)
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: stefan.baltzer
QA Contact: issues@framework
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Blocks:
 
Reported: 2002-07-31 22:45 UTC by Unknown
Modified: 2003-03-11 18:15 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

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Issue Type: ENHANCEMENT
Latest Confirmation in: ---
Developer Difficulty: ---


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Description Unknown 2002-07-31 22:45:39 UTC
It certainly isn't going to encourage people to file bug reports, none the 
more is it going to make those reports that *do* get filed useful.

Any chance we could get a *whole lot more* information out of errors, even if 
we hide it behind a button or something?

Yes, this is a DEFECT, not a FEECH or ENHANCE -- at least, not in *my* humble 
opinion; getting useful error reports even as a VAR is impossible, much less 
as a developer.
Comment 1 Frank Schönheit 2002-08-02 14:09:31 UTC
Jay,

in fact this _is_ an enhancement: The dialog works as expected (it
informes the user that an error occured), doesn't it?

If you expect more from the dialog, well, then it needs to be
enhanced. It's current specification is fullfilled ....

changing the issue type accordingly.

Additionally:
* changing the component/QA contact to the framework project - this is
no user interface issue, but more a question of the technical
infrastructure for this
* changing the OS/Platform to "All" - if we want to have this
enhancement, then not only for Linux.

Frank
Comment 2 Unknown 2002-08-04 18:16:56 UTC
You could construe my categorization as "defect in the design 
specification", if you wanted to...  :-)

IMHO, DEFECTs are likely to get more attention than ENHANCEs, as 
demonstrated by the fact that iZ boldfaces the former and not the 
latter in buglists.
Comment 3 Frank Schönheit 2002-08-05 16:12:18 UTC
Jay,

fixing "defects" in specification is an enhancement. Finally, there is
somebody (here: you) who thinks that the current spec leads to an
unsufficient and/or undesirable behaviour. If this would be all which
is required for a defect, than everything is a defect.

As I understand "community", specs are not changed upon the request of
a single person, but upon consensus which has to raise out of a
discussion (well, if notbody is interested in, there may be no
discussion at all :).
Speaking strictly, it could be possible that you are requesting
nonsense (which is not the case here :) ....

This may be somewhat nitpicking for this special issue, but I really
think it touches some basic understanding of how Issuezilla works (or
should work).
Well, maybe _my_ understanding is wrong :), but I really think that
this here an enhancement ....

Frank
Comment 4 Unknown 2002-08-07 01:33:35 UTC
Well, the problem might be merely that the secondary effects of the 
characterization are ill-chosen, and they directly affect me...

but at the moment, my problem is merely that no one (except you) 
seems to be listening -- a common problem on bZ's, but one I was 
hoping I wouldn't have trouble with here.

Time to go throw money at Sun, I guess; I have some 'issues' at a 
client's that are going to cause me to eat a $6000 system (which 
simply isn't going to happen) if I can't get them cleared.
Comment 5 Frank Schönheit 2002-08-07 07:55:47 UTC
Jay,

well, your issue is 7 days old. There are other issues which got not
that much attention like this one here in this time frame :). Anyway.

One problem I see here is that it is difficult to collect more
information. I think stack traces or so would be possible, but I am
not sure if this is what you want. Any additional (more high-level)
data would be difficult to collect me thinks, and require quite some
work to collect. So we surely can't promise anything (Personally, I
can't promise anything, anyway: This is not my working area :).

Perhaps it would help if you specify in more detail what information
you expect - at the moment, it's only "want to have _more_ info" :)

Frank
Comment 6 Unknown 2002-08-14 19:39:12 UTC
What I wanted was for there to be enough information for someone who 
could actually *fix* the problem to do so.

I can see that, given the (complete lack of) performance of this 
particular bZilla, it doesn't matter.  Time to upgrade to Word 
Perfect.
Comment 7 michael.bemmer 2003-03-11 18:07:28 UTC
As mentioned on the qa dev list on March 5th I will close all resolved duplicate
issues. Please see this posting for details. First step in IssueZilla is
unfortunately to set them to verified.
Comment 8 michael.bemmer 2003-03-11 18:15:36 UTC
As mentioned on the qa dev list on March 5th I will close all resolved
<wontfix/duplicate/worksforme/invalid> issues. Please see this posting for details.