Apache OpenOffice (AOO) Bugzilla – Issue 66319
Image titles for documents in different languages
Last modified: 2013-02-07 22:42:17 UTC
The original document was written by an english user on an english OOo platform. It contains images with titles. I (german OOo) want to modify this document and need to add images. Document language and local settings are set to english. Adding a title (german "Beschriftung") to the image creates the title "Abbildung", numbering is correct with all the existing "Image" titles . Example: "Image 1: afdsfasdf", "Abbildung 2: dsafdsf" (that's the one I inserted), "Image 3: fdsafdsf". If I force the insertion of the title "Image", numbering is wrong. Example: "Image 1: afdsfasdf", "Image 1: dsafdsf" (that's the one I inserted), "Image 2: fdsafdsf". Possible cause: translating the document to a german OOo platform, the title "Image" is translated to "Abbildung". Work around: Insertion of title "Abbildung" then change this title to "Image". Proposed behaviour: no translation of titles ("Beschriftungen"). So if a numbered title was called "Image" it shall keept that name and not be translated. But I wonder, there must have been a reason why this has been inserted. Example document at "http://www.ooomacros.org/user.php#192746".
Reassigned to SBA.
I (German user as well) just want to add that this is not only a problem when you have to modify a document that was originally written in English but also when you want to create an English document with a German OOo. I always have to change "Abbildung" to "Image" (or "Fig." for scientific texts) when creating English docs with OOo.
hillerd, can't you regulate numbering with Autocaption (r-click the image, Caption, Autocaption, "Add captions automatically when inserting" and then specifying whatever you want in "Category")? If you are talking about something else please provide step-by-step repro instructions (preferably with screenshots).
Here is a document with the step-by-step approach. Please let me know, when I can help further in clarifications. Dietmar
Created attachment 41027 [details] Step-by-step guide of issue
Confirming with OO 2.0.4 on WinXP.
I see the problem (it also causes trouble vor me), but currently I do not agree with the proposals for a solution. Unfortunately there is no "document language" (or is there agap in my knowledge?), you can define different languages for every letter in the document, and if you have an image "fit to page", how shell the language be slelected? I started <http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Writer/Drafts/issue_66319> for creation of a suitable specification. We shoud find a soulution there and then insert the specification here in the issue.
Currently I believe that this problem will vanish if you use an OOo multi language installation and switch to the desired language. Anybody out there who can confirm that everything works fine with 'Issue.odt'? Currently I can not check this because it seems impossible to get a multi language installation for my outdated OOo 2.0.2. Installing an additional language seems to be the only way to get all information concerning required texts automatically; it is inaceptable to pack all those information (templates ...) to a one language installation set, because operation of all those options will become confusing. Of course it is not very comfortable if you have to change the language of the UI completely, especially because shortcuts might not work as in your usual language's UI. For this an enhancement request might be useful.
Just tried multilingual installation (for some strange reason my OOo 2.0.4 Ubuntu has that feature). It's a work-around though I am doing sometimes funny things (using the keystrokes I am used to from my german version). Especially the decimal-point/comma and date-format are slowing me down. So, agreed, this feature would be an enhancement not a bug-fix. Concerning the document language, try the following: Menu: Tools > Options > Language Settings > Languages > default languages for documents check "For the current document only" The help tells, that this is the document language. It would be convenient to be able to apply the settings according to this value. Maybe an add-in that allows the download of the assotiated files for the document language (same as spell-checker etc.) would do it. I personally do not need Zulu, and probably others do not need German.
SBA: reassigned to requirements.
I just got hit by this issue - it's unacceptable that I can't create an English document with my swedish UI. Can anyone tell me if how the "multilingual install" workaround would work? I'm on ubuntu, and I can have multiple language packs installed, but I don't see how that helps...
If you are running Ubuntu it's easy: just add (e.g. via Synaptic) the packages openoffice.org-l10n-<your language>. Don't forget the spellcheck etc. best check all those packages that end with your language. Actually another workaround (which I have chosen due to some bugs in Ubuntu OOo) is installing the english version and a german language pack - just for the non-Ubunties. Please vote for this issue (it's still a pain to me, living in a multilinguistic world).
hillerd: I still don't understand - I have all the swedish and english packs installed. How does that help me create an document with english content (figures etc.)?
I should have added: in Openoffice.org > Menu Tools (extras in german) > Options (optionen) > language settings (Spracheinstellungen) > languages (Sprachen) > User interface (Benutzeroberfläche). Select your language, restart OOo.