Apache OpenOffice (AOO) Bugzilla – Issue 64480
Dialogs are shrinked with KHmer localization
Last modified: 2017-05-20 11:31:42 UTC
Khmer fonts are big (probably by definition). I will attach a sceeenshot that shows how the dialog Tools/Options... is shrinked in the Khmer localization. I got the screenshot in KDE with relolution 1280x1024. Well, there is one bug in KDE. It should use the font "Khmer OS System" that was designed for user interfaces and has a smaller line height than all the other Khmer fonts. The font "Khmer OS System" is correctly prefered in VCL.xcu. Though, I got feedback that the dialog is shrinked even with the font "Khmer OS System" when you use lover resolution, for example 1024x786. Then the only possibility is to lower the FontScaling in Tools/Options.../OpenOffice.org/View/Scaling. I am also not sure if Tools/Options... is the largest dialog. I think that OOo should better support this situation: 1. It should not shrink the dialogs. 2. It would provide language dependent FontScalling setting, so we could set lower scaling for Khmer localization by default. However, I am not sure. Maybe, it should be solved on the system side for all applications. 3. ??? See also the issue #51436. Especially the comment by javiersola. He wrote that the Khmer fonts are too big because there were problems with mixing English and Khmer texts.
I added the reporter of the issue #51436 to CC. He seems to have some more experiences with the Khmer localization. It would be great if he could comment on how this problem is important.
Reassigned to hdu, target set to OOo later
add cc Jens
I have a similar/the same problem. See the screenshot to-be-attached..
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screenshot 3 (km-big3.png) shows it the most interesting way. This also happens in the documents (like already told in issue 51436 for calc). This also was brought to the attention of khmeros but it didn't result in something.. (http://www.khmeros.info/drupal/?q=en/node/1420)
Hi Rene, For some reason I just got all the messages related to this issue together. I am looking at all the images, but I still do not understand what you mean by "the dialog is shrinked". Can you please explain it in a different way?
javeersola: I didn't write the shrinked thing, but I would thnink pmladek menat it is "the dialog contents are too big so things are stripped off", I ask pmladek wherther he meant the bug I was observing too and then added my screenshots. Thanks for looking; the people on khmeros seem to think it's mostly fine which I don't; and we have some people who want km reenabled in Debian (which was disabled for some other reason, but I won't reenable it until it's a bit usable...)
Rene: Khmer requires very large amounts of vertical space. We (KhmerOS) have done everything possible to make fonts that use less space, but you always must reserve space for at least 6 lines of paralel writing, as it might occur in Khmer. One main writing line, three for subscripts and two for superscripts. This results in lines that are very separated from each other, but there is no way around it. The same problem occurs in newspapers, books and any publication or website in Khmer. Sometimes lines are placed closer together, but the result is signs from two adjacent lines crossing or touching each other. You cannot either use smaller text, because Khmer has very small subscripts that must be recognisable, and they would not be in smaller text. It is not a question of Ok or not Ok, we do not have a way around it. We use Khmer for OOo, KDE, Mozilla, the Debian Installer and a large number of applications... and it works for us, most of the time. When it does not we try to find a way around it, but reducing text or getting lines closer to each other are not a solution. I don't think that this issue can be solved within OpenOffice.
Created attachment 74118
Reset assigne to the default "issues@openoffice.apache.org".