Apache OpenOffice (AOO) Bugzilla – Issue 27439
Capability to edit OOo OLE object in separate window
Last modified: 2015-01-12 15:05:37 UTC
Currently, OLE objects from one of the OOo components can only be edited "in place" after double clicking the object. While this may be an "advanced" and intuitive way of editing OLE objects, it imposes functional limitations, for example: * you cannot zoom in on an embedded draw object * more severely: objects embedded in the OLE object cannot be edited anymore As a result, an OLE-object from an OOo component is 'crippled' in OOo. Currently, the user must first save the object as a separate file and then reinsert it as an OLE object (and rearranging position and size while doing so) if he wants to change an OLE object within an OLE object (for example: a Math equation in a Writer OLE object). The suggestion is that the user should be able to choose to edit the OLE object in a separate window of the application that created it as to retain all functionality. In the Edit - Object menu, two choices, "Edit in place" and "Edit in original application" could appear. Example to illustrate the issue: * Launch Writer, create some text and a math equation * Select both text and the math equation, copy and paste into Impress. * Now edit the OLE object in Impress: the equation cannot anymore be edited.
reassigned to bh
Has this issue not yet been confirmed? Do I need to provide additional info?
I'd really like to see this issue confirmed, closed, or discarded whatever. Perhaps, I was not clear. Next to in place OLE editing, I'd request the option to edit the OLE object in a separate window, i.e., in a separate instance of the application that created the OLE. This would have as a side effect that OLE objects within OLE objects could be edited. I attached an Impress presentation illustrating the issue. Actually, what I am asking is some kind of a 'downgrade' really. The first implementation of OLE in early Windows versions worked that way. You clicked the OLE, the app that created the OLE would launch with the OLE object loaded. In a more advanced implementation, OLE objects are edited "in place". While this is nice and intuitive, some aspects are crippled that way. * You can't zoom-unzoom an embedded Draw object anymore while editing (sometimes necessary for precise work) * You can't edit an OLE within the OLE, e.g. a Math object within a Writer object, or a Calc graph within a Calc object. In other words, the OLE objects that are inserted become crippled. The only way to edit the objects embedded within an OLE object currently is * Save Copy As ... to save the OLE in a separate file * Edit the saved file * Reinsert the OLE object, but you will have to adjust the frame, size, etc. all over again. This would be solved if you could right-click the OLE with an option "Edit in separate window"
... there does not seem a possibility to add atachments once the issue has been filed?
Created attachment 18303 [details] Illustration of issue 27493
I added a file illustrating the issue (found out how ;). The point is: you cannot anymore edit the equations (math objects in this example) embedded into the embedded Writer object. This effectively cripples the embedded Writer doc. If one of these equations must be edited, the user must either edit the original document and copy it back to the impress document, or alternatively save the embedded writer object to a file, edit that in Writer, and reinsert the file as an embedded object in Impress. Both approaches involve resizing and eventually cropping the object all over again, defeating the purpose of having embedded objects. I hope this example is clear enough to have at least this issue passed beyond the status of UNCONFIRMED.
This issue has popped up in the newsgroup here http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?p=79578#79578 If OOo would allow to edit OLE objects in a native application window rather than "in place", this issue would be addressed largely. A draw object would appear in its own independent and fully functional Draw window. Hence, embedded objects within the draw ibject could be edited.
Dear developpers Why does this issue remain unconfirmed? I repeat the steps to reproduce this issue here Example to illustrate the issue: * Launch Writer, create some text and a math equation * Select both text and the math equation, copy and paste into Impress. * Now edit the OLE object in Impress, next try editing the equation conteined in the OLE object: it cannot anymore be edited. My suggestion to resolve this issue is to allow the option for more "primitive" way of editing an OLE object, i.e., have the OLE object launched in its own application instead of in-place editing. Microsoft Office provides two different options in the right-click menu for this: "Edit" opens the OLE object "in place" like it happens in OOo, while "open" launches the object in a separate application window. This way, the OLE object is being edited just as a a normal document file.
Dear developers Why leave an issue unconfirmed for more than two years? Please act on this issue: set it to new, close it, whatsoever, but do not leave unconfirmed for more than two years.
An 'enhancement' should be always confirmed. So I do it now. BTW: Confirming issue is not a developers job. This can be done by anybody of the community.
*** Issue 42850 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
it will be easier to manipulate complex table, when we just want to show a small part of a calcul sheet in writer
To grep the issues easier via "requirements" I put the issues currently lying on my owner to the owner "requirements".
This issue has been fixed (though not in response to current issue). In recent versions of OOo (3), there is the "Activate OLE object outplace" (couldn't a more user friendly phrase, such as "Edit object in separate window" be used?) command, which does exactly what is requested. Please close this issue as FIXED.
I cannot close this issue. Someone competent sees this, so this issue can be closed?
(In reply to comment #14) > This issue has been fixed (though not in response to current issue). In recent > versions of OOo (3), there is the "Activate OLE object outplace" (couldn't a > more user friendly phrase, such as "Edit object in separate window" be used?) > command, which does exactly what is requested. > > Please close this issue as FIXED. This is issue as NOT been fixed. Only the versions in Ubuntu which used to use Go OO version of openoffice have this feature. The feature is missing still in 3.3 of OOo that are downloadable from OOo website
Another example might be that after embedding a calc object there seems to be no way to change the "precision as shown" property.