Issue 128132 - Would be useful to be able to multiply overstrike (transparently overlay) a symbol
Summary: Would be useful to be able to multiply overstrike (transparently overlay) a s...
Status: UNCONFIRMED
Alias: None
Product: Writer
Classification: Application
Component: formatting (show other issues)
Version: 4.1.6
Hardware: PC Windows 10
: P5 (lowest) Normal (vote)
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Reported: 2019-06-19 13:35 UTC by Larry
Modified: 2019-06-27 07:13 UTC (History)
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Issue Type: ENHANCEMENT
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Sketch of suggested character overstrike capability (648.58 KB, image/jpeg)
2019-06-26 13:45 UTC, Larry
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Description Larry 2019-06-19 13:35:01 UTC
Would be useful to be able to multiply overstrike (transparently overlay) a symbol.

Ideally for an overlay symbol the font type, size and position (under, center, over the "base symbol") would be specifiable.
Comment 1 oooforum (fr) 2019-06-25 08:22:37 UTC
I don't understand what you means.
Please provide a sample document and 2 screenshots to see actual and expected behavior.

Once all, set status back to unconfirmed
Comment 2 Larry 2019-06-26 13:16:35 UTC
The idea is to be able to type over (overstrike) a symbol one or multiple times - showing thew "base" symbol and the overstriking symbols in the same character position. In such case technically the "cursor" is backspaced after each overstruck symbol so the next symbol overlays it. This was used in the 1960-s/1970-s with the IBM Selectric Typewriter and other printers to type APL (a programming language) operators. Such printers had a backspace function which mechanically backspaced to before the last symbol typed. "Chain printers" had a similar capability for overprinting - the paper could be prevented from moving to the next line so characters could be overprinted. One use of this was to underline or create a "bold" effect.

Imagine say O overprinted with =. The = would be in middle of O. Or S overprinted with |. That would be similar to a $ sign. 

= overstruck by / and then \ would be = with sort of a large X over it.

A more powerful capability would be to say print a small character right over or under another, similar to the way superscript and subscript is handled, but right above oir below the base character.
Comment 3 oooforum (fr) 2019-06-26 13:28:38 UTC
I repeat:
> Please provide a sample document and 2 screenshots to see actual and
> expected behavior.
Comment 4 Larry 2019-06-26 13:45:54 UTC
Created attachment 86708 [details]
Sketch of suggested character overstrike capability

Right column after vertical bar shows suggested effect of overprinting characters to the left.

Please note: this is an enhancement effect and I can't show relevant OpenOffice screen shots etc. since the suggested capability does NOT exist in OO.
Comment 5 oooforum (fr) 2019-06-26 15:20:59 UTC
For me, this kind of text can get with AutoText feature.
Comment 6 Larry 2019-06-26 15:45:26 UTC
(In reply to oooforum (fr) from comment #5)
> For me, this kind of text can get with AutoText feature.

Can you send a sample with the examples I gave earlier?

Perhaps I misunderstand AutoText. I see it as a shortcut to something that OpenOffice can do and can't by itself implement typographic effects not available in OO.
Comment 7 oooforum (fr) 2019-06-27 06:49:04 UTC
AutoText can insert some draws and not only text. 
So, you can build this kind of symbol.

Remember that is a bug tracking system and not a help desk.
If you have some questions to use such feature, you could:
- read help file (F1 key)
- consult our Wiki or tutorials about this
- go to our forum or users mailing list
Comment 8 Larry 2019-06-27 07:00:35 UTC
If symbol overstrike would be implemented (a suggested feature) it should be ability to type the symbols to be overlaid, marking them and invoke some menu item for OVERSTRIKE. It should NOT be by graphics drawing the effect, which is very cumbersome and generally not high quality. Also, note that if the overstrike ability would be implemented as suggested above the composite symbol could be cast in any supported font, any size, bold italics, underline, etc.


Of course one can "draw" an overstruck symbol set and create for it a font, but that is not possible for most users.
Comment 9 oooforum (fr) 2019-06-27 07:13:34 UTC

If some symbols don't exist, you could create your own font that embed these.

But for me, AutoText as workaround is enough.
A  new feature must interest a large number of people.
So you could set back to unconfirmed status and wait if a developer can have a look.